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Thursday, December 14, 2006

12z thurs 12/14 SPECiAL

The TREND is MY friend but it aint yours !!!!


The midday American model h turned strongly towards the 0z Euro and how it handles the SW low 12.22-23 which IS a winter storm RISK for the Middel Atlantic even through the 12z THUR op GFS model shows a the SW Low sliding off the SE coast as a Flat wave

If you recall from this morning the problem was that the Operational 0z and 6z GFS took the 5H low ut of the Southwest states and merged it with another s/w coming in from the upper Plains. This system then drop heavy snow over Texas and Oklahoma as well as portions of eastern Kansas Northwest Arkansas and Missouri and significant rain for the deep South and Midwest and East Coast. And it was not until this Low pressure area cleared East Coast on the 22nd the cold air finally return.

The midday op GFS model is different and much closer towards the European British and Canadian solutions from this morning. It now shows the northern s/w is NOT going to drop into the Low over the Southwest states but instead track through the Midwest as a very decent system in its own right and development significant rain and/or snowstorm for the Midwest and New England 12/19-20. Hello 0z ecmwf and ukmet!!!

The trend is my friend

If we were to accept the American model solution here at midday "verbatim " this system would bring significant rain to the BIG cities of the NE such as Philadelphia New York and possibly Boston... and significant snow to places such as Indianapolis Detroit Toldeo Leo Buffalo Albany and much of New England

Then after this first Low pressure area passes off the coast the Low over the Southwest states and the lower Plains comes eastward. The midday American model is weaker with this BIG Low coming out of the SW and thus does NOT show a major snow fall for OK NM northern and western Texas. Instead this system just brings rain to central and southern Texas and moves across the Gulf Coast 12/21-22.

BY the 12/21 -22 the 1st Low moves thru the NE and has passed through off the coast and cold air moves in... reaching into KY TN and northern NC. The midday American model takes the Low over the Gulf Coast states and suppresses it by moving it off the Southeast coast BUT the pattern actually favors this Low over SE NOT sliding off the Southeast coast BUT turning NE and with all this cold air in place the potential would still exist for possible winter storm for the Middle Atlantic Coast12/22-23.

There is a Noitceable 50/50 In place as well a ICELAND Ridge ....
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/fp0_180.shtml

By Day10 ( 12/24) seasonally cold air covers much of the central and northern CONUS and there is a fairly strong Ridge over western Canada. But the Jet stream here has split which means that energy is coming in on the southern into the West coast UNDER the ridge over western Canada. This is often a very stormy pattern for the CONUS and the Midday American Model shows a very potent system diving Southeast into the over the central Rockies / Great Basin on the 24th-25th while a large cold area of High pressure stretches from Southwest Canada all the way into Buffalo. If we take the Midday American Model verbatim at day 11-13 this run is screaming a major snowstorm for the Midwest and the Northeast.

264 hrs Major 50/50 is in place which is why this LOOKS promising
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/fp0_264.shtml

288 hrs more of the same DONT sweat the 850 temps at this point
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/fp0_288.shtml

Not surprisingly behind this winter storm the model shwos more significant cold air in the 11-15 day. In My opinion I think the American model at midday is much closer to reality than what we were seeing this morning. I am of course very uncertain about the potential for major winter storm across the US right around Christmas but the potential so there and it has to be watched.

6 Comments:

  • At 2:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Praise the lord! Something to at least look forward to!

     
  • At 3:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    And now the GFS is all alone...The Eruo, Ukie and Canadian all have no overrunning event Dec 19th and 20th...Now just mild to start and a cooldown to normal..Where is the overrunning? What happened?

    As soon as the GFs agrees with the other models..they lose the wave on the 20th.

    Are you still on board for that or should we just head for the cliff now?

     
  • At 3:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    DT,

    the EURO, UKMET and Canadian at 12z all came out after your post, at least I believe so. They make the gfs look like the outlier pretty much, and the EURO had a pretty shitty look to it in the long range compared to that of the gfs. Havn't seen any ensembles as of yet to see if the solution is supported well, but I was wondering what your thoughts were of the other 12z runs.

     
  • At 5:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    DT. very nice update/Just to let you know,am know one of importances,just someone who loves weather and who likes to get as much info as I can.I always have enjoyed reading or listening to you.Am not one of these nut casses who bust on you for evey mistake you might make.I like how you speak the truth it doesn't matter how much will fall in my back yard or if you say it's going to be a blowtorch.You put out the facts and try your hardest yo come out with a forecast.Keep the good work up.Thanks for making you blog public.If I can make donation please let me know how to do it.

     
  • At 5:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Good thoughts Dave. I appreciate the time you take to look at this.

    Matt aka Yoda from Eastern

     
  • At 6:31 PM, Blogger DT said…

    DONATIONS??? NO THANK YOU.... not needed

     

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